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electromagnetic medicine
November 2008 
The Medical Industrial Complex
Posted on Mar 10th, 2007
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dragpa gyaltsen
dragpa gyaltsen
Lamentably, I have just declined an invitation to join a Pod associated with Health Care Insurance Reforms, that was being rehabilitated by a very well meaning and sincere person engaged in what he saw was a valuable service. These efforts do have, *some* value; though, as I submit here, and will below elaborate, operating within a system as flawed, at its very foundation, as the current health care industry is an excercise in futility, frustration, and is ultimately doomed to yield pathetically ineffective results.
I respond to his invitation with the following text (though I've elaborated a bit from the original message), which articulates my position on the Health Care Industry (Insurance Indusrty, AMA, FDA, Big Pharma):
---o---
There is a fundamental component to the insurance crisis that is not covered in the Pod. This forum, from what I can see by browsing the headings, is devoid of any discussion analyzing and showing the inadequacies of the fundamental paradigm of medicine advocated, perpetuated, and promoted by the AMA; the Policies of the FDA which enforce the same, and of the almost complete focus on alopathic medical solutions by both. This is perfectly in line with the aims of what I refer to as the "Medical Industrial Complex." which is all about Pharmaceutical Company profits, and a populace that is perenially sick, and therefore generating doctor visits, prescription drug sales, and Insurance company income; and is *much* less about resolving their patient's health issues, and mitigating the suffering, of human beings.
However, I want to state that there are probably millions of healthcare professionals that engage in valiant service, convinced that they are doing the very best they can for a suffering and sick populace, whose hearts are filled with compassion and are motivated by a duty to heal sickness and dissease, and which have *NO CLUE* that the paradigm under which they work is utterly flawed. Its not as if there was a great, ongoing consipiracy. I would submit that if the average executive of a large pharmaceutical company's father was struck down by cancer, that he (or she) would send thier father to the best possible practitioner of surgery, chemotherapy, and other alopathic remedies. The consipiracies occured over 50 years ago and are mostly forgotten by now. What remains today is the tragic inertia of an industry that pruposefully blinded itself to ongoing research and inovation in the past--for the sake of vested interest's (an upstart pharmaceutical industry) profits--with the current result being an atavistic, self perpetuating, ignorance, mythology, and barbarism.
If you care to dig a bit, you will find a history of, corruption, slander, and the outright supression of Energy/Frequency Therapies, both in their roles to support healing, and in directly disabling/killing pathogens; you will find distortions and obfuscantion on the origin and nature of cancer, and suppresion of non pattentable treatments, etc.
The human body is primarilly an energetic system. Matter itself is 'condensed energy'. Chemical therapies are a coarse, secondary level, manipulation. Though such chemical therapies can often be the appropriate treatment modality, to deny the efficacy of all other modalities, especially those involved with energies of various kinds, is outrageous. Let's not even consider, for the moment, sublte energies that are only now yeilding scientific, reproducible, experimental results. Lets temporarily not consider that human intention and consciousness, which acts to work with such subtle energies through SU(2) guage symetries, can robustly affect 'ordinary' U(1) guage symetry space time, matter and energy, and therefore empower healing modalities--known for milenia--but repudiated by modern scientific materialism (see my recent post). let's just deal with the ordinary, classical, actions of electromagnetic resonant waves on living tissues and the cellular structures of pathogens (virus, bacteria, and fungi). Why is it that the FDA suggests treating food meats to eliminate these same pathogens with non-ionizing, electromagentic frequencies, generated via high voltage currents running within noble gas plasma tubes, tuned to the base resonant frequencies of the pathogens to be destroyed (they literally explode from resonance induced in their cellular structures)? Such is available on the FDA site (though I've not found the URL recently and lost my bookmark); yet, the FDA would prosecute any physician that employed such methods on human beings?
Royal Raymond Rife and derived "Rife Machines":
http://www.rife.org/
http://www.royalrife.com/emem2.html
http://www.rt66.com/~rifetech/
Star Trek Tricorder? Anyone?
http://www.braintuner.com/fscan.htm
http://www.fscan.com/fscan/page/index.asp?lsprache=english
'exploding' paramecium caudatum under resonant frequency 'attack':
http://www.rifetechnologies.com/kaboom.avi
---o---
Georges Lakhovsky and Multi-Wave Oscillator:
http://educate-yourself.org/be/lakhovskyindex.shtml
http://www.altered-state.com/index2.htm?/lmwo/lmwo.htm
http://www.racingsmarter.com/health/mwo.htm
http://www.racingsmarter.com/injury_main.htm
---o---
And if we expand from classical electromagentic treatments, to non-local, SU(2) Guage symetry space time effects (as modeled by William A. Tiller's work) then such modalities as per:
Wilhelm Reich and Ogone Accumulators:
http://www.orgonics.com/
http://www.orgonelab.org/wrhistory.htm
Radionics:
http://www.copenlabs.com/whatsradionics.htm
http://www.super-health-store.com/biophoton.html
---o---
Also:
Check out Jeff Sutherland's site:
http://jeffsutherland.com/complementary/
PS: here's Sutherland's BIO, you'll see this is no flake:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Sutherland
Some more:
http://www.borderlands.com/rifeandtesla.htm
Consider reading this book:
http://astore.amazon.com/frequencyfoundation-20/detail/0443062617/103-8200975-2060661
The bottom line for me, is that to engage in any discussion attempting to rehabilitate an Insurance system that is rigged as a cash cow for the "Medical Industrial Complex" , in exchange for human mysery, is, at best, a fools errand (no insult intended). And Its simply a waste of my time. The entire, Medical Industry needs to be 'taken out and beaten thoroughly with a large stick, such that like an old dirt, and filth, encrusted carpet, the filth (politial corruption, economic monopolies, mythological scientific materialism, entrenched greedy institutuions) can be beaten out of it. Any 'cosmetic' solution, that leaves the fundamentally flawed paradigm of Medicine and Healthcare in place, as the basis for a Health Insurance Solution, is flawed beyond redemption.
Oh... and lest the storm troopers arrive at my door in the middle of the night....
NOTICE: I am not a physician. I do not advocate that anyone use any device herein mentioned to treat any disease. The use of any device mentioned herein is striclty intended for personal experimentation and research.
--dragpa gyaltsen
I respond to his invitation with the following text (though I've elaborated a bit from the original message), which articulates my position on the Health Care Industry (Insurance Indusrty, AMA, FDA, Big Pharma):
---o---
There is a fundamental component to the insurance crisis that is not covered in the Pod. This forum, from what I can see by browsing the headings, is devoid of any discussion analyzing and showing the inadequacies of the fundamental paradigm of medicine advocated, perpetuated, and promoted by the AMA; the Policies of the FDA which enforce the same, and of the almost complete focus on alopathic medical solutions by both. This is perfectly in line with the aims of what I refer to as the "Medical Industrial Complex." which is all about Pharmaceutical Company profits, and a populace that is perenially sick, and therefore generating doctor visits, prescription drug sales, and Insurance company income; and is *much* less about resolving their patient's health issues, and mitigating the suffering, of human beings.
However, I want to state that there are probably millions of healthcare professionals that engage in valiant service, convinced that they are doing the very best they can for a suffering and sick populace, whose hearts are filled with compassion and are motivated by a duty to heal sickness and dissease, and which have *NO CLUE* that the paradigm under which they work is utterly flawed. Its not as if there was a great, ongoing consipiracy. I would submit that if the average executive of a large pharmaceutical company's father was struck down by cancer, that he (or she) would send thier father to the best possible practitioner of surgery, chemotherapy, and other alopathic remedies. The consipiracies occured over 50 years ago and are mostly forgotten by now. What remains today is the tragic inertia of an industry that pruposefully blinded itself to ongoing research and inovation in the past--for the sake of vested interest's (an upstart pharmaceutical industry) profits--with the current result being an atavistic, self perpetuating, ignorance, mythology, and barbarism.
If you care to dig a bit, you will find a history of, corruption, slander, and the outright supression of Energy/Frequency Therapies, both in their roles to support healing, and in directly disabling/killing pathogens; you will find distortions and obfuscantion on the origin and nature of cancer, and suppresion of non pattentable treatments, etc.
The human body is primarilly an energetic system. Matter itself is 'condensed energy'. Chemical therapies are a coarse, secondary level, manipulation. Though such chemical therapies can often be the appropriate treatment modality, to deny the efficacy of all other modalities, especially those involved with energies of various kinds, is outrageous. Let's not even consider, for the moment, sublte energies that are only now yeilding scientific, reproducible, experimental results. Lets temporarily not consider that human intention and consciousness, which acts to work with such subtle energies through SU(2) guage symetries, can robustly affect 'ordinary' U(1) guage symetry space time, matter and energy, and therefore empower healing modalities--known for milenia--but repudiated by modern scientific materialism (see my recent post). let's just deal with the ordinary, classical, actions of electromagnetic resonant waves on living tissues and the cellular structures of pathogens (virus, bacteria, and fungi). Why is it that the FDA suggests treating food meats to eliminate these same pathogens with non-ionizing, electromagentic frequencies, generated via high voltage currents running within noble gas plasma tubes, tuned to the base resonant frequencies of the pathogens to be destroyed (they literally explode from resonance induced in their cellular structures)? Such is available on the FDA site (though I've not found the URL recently and lost my bookmark); yet, the FDA would prosecute any physician that employed such methods on human beings?
Royal Raymond Rife and derived "Rife Machines":
http://www.rife.org/
http://www.royalrife.com/emem2.html
http://www.rt66.com/~rifetech/
Star Trek Tricorder? Anyone?
http://www.braintuner.com/fscan.htm
http://www.fscan.com/fscan/page/index.asp?lsprache=english
'exploding' paramecium caudatum under resonant frequency 'attack':
http://www.rifetechnologies.com/kaboom.avi
---o---
Georges Lakhovsky and Multi-Wave Oscillator:
http://educate-yourself.org/be/lakhovskyindex.shtml
http://www.altered-state.com/index2.htm?/lmwo/lmwo.htm
http://www.racingsmarter.com/health/mwo.htm
http://www.racingsmarter.com/injury_main.htm
---o---
And if we expand from classical electromagentic treatments, to non-local, SU(2) Guage symetry space time effects (as modeled by William A. Tiller's work) then such modalities as per:
Wilhelm Reich and Ogone Accumulators:
http://www.orgonics.com/
http://www.orgonelab.org/wrhistory.htm
Radionics:
http://www.copenlabs.com/whatsradionics.htm
http://www.super-health-store.com/biophoton.html
---o---
Also:
Check out Jeff Sutherland's site:
http://jeffsutherland.com/complementary/
PS: here's Sutherland's BIO, you'll see this is no flake:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Sutherland
Some more:
http://www.borderlands.com/rifeandtesla.htm
Consider reading this book:
http://astore.amazon.com/frequencyfoundation-20/detail/0443062617/103-8200975-2060661
The bottom line for me, is that to engage in any discussion attempting to rehabilitate an Insurance system that is rigged as a cash cow for the "Medical Industrial Complex" , in exchange for human mysery, is, at best, a fools errand (no insult intended). And Its simply a waste of my time. The entire, Medical Industry needs to be 'taken out and beaten thoroughly with a large stick, such that like an old dirt, and filth, encrusted carpet, the filth (politial corruption, economic monopolies, mythological scientific materialism, entrenched greedy institutuions) can be beaten out of it. Any 'cosmetic' solution, that leaves the fundamentally flawed paradigm of Medicine and Healthcare in place, as the basis for a Health Insurance Solution, is flawed beyond redemption.
Oh... and lest the storm troopers arrive at my door in the middle of the night....
NOTICE: I am not a physician. I do not advocate that anyone use any device herein mentioned to treat any disease. The use of any device mentioned herein is striclty intended for personal experimentation and research.
--dragpa gyaltsen
Access: Public
Actually, I would not dissent from anything you are saying - just from your unwillingness to advance your arguments on that particular pod. I will certainly agree with you that health care delivery in the United States is defective. We are both discussing the need for a revolutionary paradigm change. Mine is limited - at this point - to payment mechanisms; but advances taking some of the current major profiteers out of the system. Yours encompasses a much broader vision - a change of sickness care and a sickness based industry to a wellness-based industry that would freeze out more of the major profiteers of the current system.
Although my profession has been medicine, I have seen enough poor results and know the limitations on the scientific “evidence” behind what we do in that profession (I have blogged that quite extensively…) - so I would not choose to argue against a paradigm shift of the magnitude YOU are discussing. It seems to me that we both see the need to flog the system with a big stick. The only question is… how big.
Easy enough to open additional boards or even give you admin privileges to develop the boards that would be needed - and certainly the title of the pod could be changed to accomodate the much broader discussion. Your choice.
And lest the KGB knock on MY door in the middle of the night:
I AM a physician. But in making these comments I am offering only general information and no specific advice to any individual regarding the nature or treatment of any illness or disease. As such, use of any device, medication, or means of treatment mentioned at any point in this or any related discussion is the decision of the individual reader only and is specifically NOT recommended by any comments I have made.
Barry,
Very well. I accept your challenge to contribute, since you have made space for arguments and discussion advocating a more fundamental solution.
In retrospect, I agree with you that improving payment mechanisms, while launching and supporing a movement to separate the feeding trough (patients) from the beasts (“some of the current major profiteers”) within the current system of medicine (flawed as it is) and health care is a worthwhile endeavour.
However, I would submit, and I belive that you would agree (based on your response above, and the inclusion of the “Broader Health Paradigm Shifts” section), that a parallel efforts to support a fundamental paradigm shift in health care should be vigorously undertaken in the US and in the rest of the world, as well.
As a fundamental component of a “sea change’ in health care modalities, technologies, and focus I submit the below 3 initiatives:
1. Remove unfounded, and arbitrary, barriers to the licensing, and adoption of, technologies and treatments such as Resonant Frequency Therapies for the treatment of infections of bacterial, viral, and fungal pathogens, as well as larger parasites.
2. Remove unfounded, and arbitrary barriers to, main stream, unobstructed, scientific research, and the funding that such research would require, into: the relationship between parasites life cycles in the human body in the presence of various solvents and polutants with the formation of malignancies, as well as the presence of, and relationship between, between cell wall deficient, pleomorphic, BX and BY bacteria in carcinoma and sarcoma malignancies. Then, as part of the above research, how the removal of such pathogens affects the continued virulence and viability of such malignancies. And finally, that results from such research, not being aligned with the interests of the “major profiteers”, not be squashed and/or ignored but rather acted upon immediately such that treatment modalities incorporating these results (especially using Resonant Frequency treatments as per 1, above) be licensed and made available without undue delay.
3. That the adoption of immune system remediating and enhancing treatments and agents become a fundamental component of health care rather than an afterthought (at best); and, that mainstream, well funded, scientific research into methods to enhance and restore immune function become central to health care research.
The above 3 items are the tip of the iceberg. However, from the top of my head, such are the most important things I can think of, that should they be resolved, would act to revolutionize the way we treat non obesity related disease (which is another huge problem and one that I personaly must come to grip with, being about 50 pounds overweight).
In any case, I will join and do my part. We are all in this together. Any human being, with any significant capacity of intellect, and who has had the good fortune to transcend the limits of their ego to an identification with the underlying unity of consciousness which is our ‘true face’, and who has explored and/or experienced the depth of human mysery associated with illness and disease, can’t but take action in some manner.
This issue, “Integral Health Care” is one of 3 issues that are parmount to me, as I articulated to my associates, and fellow participants, in the “Integral Action in the World Pod” at the following URL:
http://pods.zaadz.com/integral_action/discussions/view/112084#112677
If this Pod can become an effective vehicle to support an effort that could assist in, at the very least, the realization of my 3 crucial Health Care initiatvies as articulated above, then I (along with all of humanity) would be blessed beyond measure.
itd be great if all this royal raymond rife + frequency, resonance etc stuff was connected to dr hans jenny, cymatics, ernst chladni, john ernst worrell keely.. and the magnetic resonance amplifier developed and based on john keely's stuff, the MRA was developed by norman wootan and another person. have you seen the great page of john bedini on his developments on royal raymond rife? really recommend checking it out.
http://www.icehouse.net/john34/rife.html
hope you find this enjoyable:)
Fascinating. not just the rife tech, but the zero point energy. There’s just so much that’s being squashed. Its just sickening…
on the other hand, the people who actually focus on comprehending and then copying nature, is not even a handful. all it takes is a lot of resistance from the non-comprehenders, and no support from the status quo - and youve got brilliant men being ignored and ridiculed this way and that. the list is practically endless - however, even if there might be, say, 50 people who devoted all of their life into developing natural/alternative ways of creating energy, that doesnt mean that the next person who gets all the available information, studies it, and gleans more from nature, won't be able to get to the juicy bit. the more i look at this stuff the more it seems to have to do with oscillation/frequency/vibration and resonance - any of it. it'll be figured out, and there are already non-profit-organizations like panacea that are working on disseminating opensource d-i-y type material on alternative energy source harnessing, worldwide. the net gives a lot of opportunities for proper networking, but … there is a way, there has got to be a will too..
basically a community like zaadz can help quite a bit, and makezine/constructibles/different wikis (peswiki comes to mind).. then theres energy21, rexresearch.. and del.icio.us which is quite powerful. however, whats really required is more actual information - for instance it doesnt take more than a month to exhaust all the available information and “information” on say viktor schauberger or john keely - the realizations that they had, are slightly harder to dig up, yet everything that schauberger saw, he saw in nature, in the movement of water in rivers, and the flight of birds when wooing fish onto the surface for grabbin. many are willing to pick their own cool and cute legendary heroes and swear by them, but even then there doesnt seem to be a will to want to get into the inner workings of these people, to really see what they saw, and then realize what it meant to them…
then theres the fun bit, when scientists and engineers try to scientifically and engineering-ly understand something, that isnt in their textbooks, and they make it ultra-complex and turn away anyone that would actually intuitively understand stuff that Walter Russell and Viktor Schauberger saw. however, all of this can still change..
so in a way, sure, its all being squashed and ridiculed, however, it isnt really when you throw away the negativizers and the nay-sayers. then all you have is a lot of people who see the merit, but dont really understand what it is that they see the merit of.